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David Enevoldsen: All right, hello, everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Emotional Embuffination podcast. I am your host, David Enevoldsen. And here on Emotional Embuffination, we are training to become emotionally buff enough to overcome any conflict in life. And at the same time, we are trying to optimize and discover new levels of success and happiness. This podcast is just one of a number of different resources I have available. If you want to learn more about that, check out the Emotional Embuffination website which is embuff.com. That's E-M-B-U-F-F.com. When you are on the website, make sure that you sign up for the newsletter and you'll get quick weekly Emotional Embuffination tips. Okay, on today's show we are going to be talking with Victoria Gallagher. Victoria is a worldwide leader in hypnotherapy, a bestselling author, international speaker, life success coach and renowned authority on the Law of Attraction. She's dedicated her life to empowering people all over the world to successfully live a life of liberty aligned with their dreams through her effective meditative recordings and online courses. Through her podcast, The Power of Your Mind, she exudes her passion for inspiring listeners with influential guests in the areas of self-development, mindset, discipline and habits, entrepreneurship, wealth, and relationships.
David Enevoldsen: Victoria, thank you very much for agreeing to talk with me today. I'm actually kind of excited to speak with you, in significant part because the Law of Attraction, which you're kind of an expert in, it seems, is has become a pretty significant part of Emotional Embuffination. It's really changed my life. I think it does a lot, a lot of positive things for people when they understand what's going on with it. But so far, I haven't really had anybody that I've talked to other than just me rambling about the Law of Attraction other than myself. So I'm kind of excited to talk to you, just to get some different perspectives, to get your insight, to get your knowledge about what the Law of Attraction is and how to utilize it in your life. So thank you for coming on. To begin with, maybe we could start with just a little bit about your background and specifically how you came to do work with the Law of Attraction. Like what got you on this track?
Victoria Gallagher: Absolutely. Yeah. I'm really excited to talk to you about this. So thank you so much for having me on on your show. And I love all the work that you're doing, the books that you're writing. And so it's really cool to talk to you about, you know, just kind of how I got started in this. And I'll get into, you know, what my take on it is and how I help people with it. But starting off probably about 24, 25 years ago, I was kind of I found myself in a place where, you know, I was doing really well. I was successful in my own right with being a stockbroker, earning good money. I was married, had my own house, had a nice car, was in good shape, you know, all the good things. And yet I was just feeling really unfulfilled and just numb. And so I and I, and I was just starting to kind of feel a little bit burnt out on my career at the time. And so that kind of led me to a personal growth seminar. And over like the four days during this personal growth seminar, I just had all these epiphanies and all of these really just amazing experiences. And, you know, we did things like visualization and closed eye techniques and meditation and doing a lot of writing and a lot of like really getting clear on our goals. And it was just during that time that I started thinking, like, I really want to introduce a lot of people to doing this kind of work, and I didn't know what that was going to look like.
Victoria Gallagher: But I just knew that, like, I just people need to know this. People need to understand how this all works, how the mind works, and how you can create a better life. And so fast forward a couple of years go by and I kind of stumbled upon a hypnotherapy school where I could get trained and certified in, you know, helping people to tap into the subconscious mind. And so I did that, and one thing led to another. I ended up opening up my own office, opening up a practice. And the whole goal of it, though behind it was I really wanted to bring the experience into people's the comfort of their own home because, you know, I was having a hard time like getting people to actually come to a seminar. And I just thought, you know, maybe if I just make these recordings and, you know, help people, it's it's a lot more cost effective and it is effective. And so that training, that's what gave me the the training to know what to say, how to say it. And you know, and so I became a hypnotherapist. Fast forward from there. My boss, where I was working as a stockbroker, caught wind of what I was doing and he gave me an ultimatum, and he told me I had to choose between my new career, where I was making no money yet because I literally just opened the doors and my, you know, current existing career that's stable, making lots of money and, well, we all kind of can figure out which direction I chose and,
David Enevoldsen: What was the reason for that ultimatum. Like why,
Victoria Gallagher: You know, so being in a highly regulated industry such as financial services, I think, I mean, you know, maybe if I had explored it a little bit more, they, you know, I would have found that it was not a conflict of interest. But that's what he essentially told me was that it was a conflict of interest that I couldn't have any other, um, you know, moonlighting job on the side. And, you know, so these days it's really common for people to have a some kind of a side hustle. But back then it really wasn't that common and especially in that kind of a role. And I think also too, just because I had been getting burnt out and I was starting to, you know, I wasn't coming in at 6 a.m., you know, making as many calls, you know, as, as I was, I was kind of slacking off a little bit. I think he just kind of felt like, well, you know, the writing's on the wall. I mean, your, your mind is kind of made up. So he just, I think in a way it was really a, it was really just kind of the push that I needed because otherwise I don't know if I would have, you know, really, really made it, made a go of it.
Victoria Gallagher: I'm not, you know, it's just hard to say and but, you know, so I did I did do that. And then, you know, kind of from there, you know, the Law of Attraction was always a little piece in the back of my mind after reading a lot of books like Think and Grow Rich and the there was The Science of Getting Rich, and there was a lot of these kinds of books I was really tapping into. So when I would write my meditation scripts, my hypnosis scripts, I would write from that perspective, like I would always, you know, encourage people to, you know, think about raising their energy vibration. And I would talk about how they are like a magnet. And I would talk about how like attracts like and I would say all these things inside of my hypnosis scripts. I never really talked about them so much out in the, in the world, but this was the content that people were absorbing. And this is, I believe, why my it was like the secret ingredient to why my stuff was working so well was just the vocabulary that I was using. And really teaching people about the law of attraction at a subconscious level. So when The Secret came out and that really initiated a lot of, um, you know, people finding out about this thing called the Law of Attraction, I said, oh, goody, I can actually talk about this.
Victoria Gallagher: And so I did. I started talking about it on my YouTube channel, and I started eventually, you know, writing books about it. And I was asked to, you know, give certification training courses about it, since it was something that that I spoke about and from there, you know, that's when I wrote my Practical Law of Attraction book. And I used the Law of Attraction very much in getting that book to become number one bestseller to, to attract a lot of the, um, you know, the people who wrote the forewords and the endorsements and, and to get I mean, it has over a thousand reviews on Amazon and, you know, so I, you know, really used my own tools to get that book. I felt like, you know, you can't exactly write a book about the Law of Attraction and not have it do well. And so, you know, from from there, you know, it's just been I sort of have been labeled as, you know, somebody who knows a lot about manifesting and, and, and the law. And so I sort of just gave myself that title. I now call myself the Law of Attraction hypnotist. And I specialize in manifestation.
David Enevoldsen: Okay. I like that story. Um, maybe we can get really foundational here, just in case somebody is not familiar with with some of this stuff. Just on a basic level, what is the Law of Attraction? How would you define it?
Victoria Gallagher: Yeah. So on a very basic level, it just means that like energy attracts like energy. So what you predominantly spend your time focused on is what you are drawing into your life, whether that's a negative thing or a positive thing. So if you are predominantly thinking about the good things and the things that you want to bring into your life, and you're thinking about them in a way that's positive, you know, meaning you're you know, you're not like longing for them where you're wishing that they would happen, but you feel the lack of it. But you're actually, you know, you're thinking of it and you're you feel good about it and you expect it and you believe it. That's how you can bring good things into your life. And conversely, we also bring into our life the things, the negative things that we are dwelling upon as well. So in the most simple nutshell, that's what it is. We just we attract to us whatever we're predominantly focused on and what our energy is on.
David Enevoldsen: Okay. Why do you think people should care? Like what mean? What if they just ignore this or go on about their lives without even worrying about the Law of Attraction? Why is it important to you?
Victoria Gallagher: You know, if you are in a place in your life where you know you want to have something better and you are stuck and you're, you know, running against roadblocks, it might be that you need to take a look. At, you know, this way of thinking or believing or the energy. What, you know, what is it that you're putting out there? So it's happening anyway. And so it's kind of like, um, you know, having something in your life that, you know, is not working well for you. You know, you want to, like, kind of open up the instruction manual and find out exactly where it is in that instruction manual, what what might be the cause of the results that you're getting. And so it's it's really just a curiosity. I mean, if your life is going wonderfully and you're, you know, then more, more than likely you're naturally applying these laws. And some people do, some people do just really naturally apply these laws. Um, some of the reasons is because, you know, they may have grown up with people that they had in their life. They were very positive influences. And, you know, they and they taught them. To think in ways that create success and abundance and, you know, and good health and good energy and good people around them. But, you know, if you didn't grow up and most people did not, you know, grow up having extremely positive influences, then that would be an opportunity really.
David Enevoldsen: Surprising how rare that is, isn't it?
Victoria Gallagher: No, it really is. It's it's not too surprising because it's, you know, our brains are just hard-wired to really be on the lookout and to think about lack and fear and, and, you know, all of that, you know, we're really trained that way. And so that's the other reason why it's important to kind of make a study of how you can break through those, those patterns, which are, you know, kind of they're not necessarily natural, but they are, you know, they are there. And, you know, it's actually much, much more natural, you know, to live in a place of, you know, abundance and freedom and happiness and peace and and safety and security and all of the, the good things that we all want.
David Enevoldsen: Sure. So you said this is kind of operating, whether you're focusing on it or not. If somebody does choose to like pay attention to it. Can you give me some examples of how you might or what could happen if you are effectively utilizing and understanding the Law of Attraction?
Victoria Gallagher: What would happen if you are using it in the right way?
David Enevoldsen: You're consciously applying principles related to the Law of Attraction. Like what? What's the affect of that?
Victoria Gallagher: Yeah. So the you know, the main effect is that you are much more easily to able to attract things that that you do want. Your days just go smoother. You're able to, you know, say, you know, if you if you're looking for a romantic relationship and you know, but you have been struggling to, you know, to have one, once you start to apply the law of attraction, you are, you know, you're just able to see the opportunities that are right there in front of you that have been in front of you maybe the whole time. So, you know, you just you actually just start to have a new, positive, better mindset. You feel better, you're happier, you're more at peace. You're putting out more, you know, of a loving vibration. And then therefore, you know, you're just attracting more of the good things to you.
David Enevoldsen: So you mentioned a minute ago you were talking about somebody doing well in their life. Maybe they don't need to think about it as much. It's interesting. Yesterday I watched a video by an influencer, and this influencer I know is doing extremely well, especially financially, but in a couple of different realms seems to be doing well. And he was in this particular video really bashing on the idea of the Law of Attraction and basically saying it was all nonsense and, you know, we shouldn't believe in it. And so I guess that raises some interesting questions for me in terms of when you especially when you have the person that's doing well and saying, look, it's it's nonsense. You don't need it. Look at me. I'm doing well.
Victoria Gallagher: Right?
David Enevoldsen: How does somebody come to, well, maybe I can start with that. How did you come to believe that this was true? Because there's obviously a lot of people saying that there's it's not true, and it's all just make believe. And this is just what we want to see. What made you convinced that this is the way the world works?
Victoria Gallagher: Right. Well, for one. So let me just address the the person you know that you know, think so in, you know, my the way that I would kind of reframe that is that they are still using the law of attraction unknowingly. They just maybe I think a lot of people think that the law of Attraction is just all about wishful thinking. And it's just if you think a certain if you if you just think and believe and dream, you know, then you're going to have what you want, what you want. And they don't realize that there's a lot, lot more, you know, I mean, there's a whole study about, you know, the law of attraction that people need to really comprehend that, you know, it's it's about alignment, and it's about alignment with a lot of different factors. It's alignment between number one, I mean, just kind of knowing what you want. And now a really successful person like this influencer probably knows what they want. You know. So there's there's a box that's checked. Many people don't know what they want. And so their ideas are really scattered and focused kind of all over the place. So when you're focused on too many things, it's kind of a recipe for diluting the, the power of, you know what what are you really thinking about? You know, you're not giving enough energy or power to, you know, really fuel your ability to achieve that desire.
Victoria Gallagher: And that's just one of the manifesting conditions is, is that desire is is knowing what it is that you want. And then, you know, secondly is like thinking in a particular way. So this person, this influencer, you know, they they may be, you know, already kind of like their mind is, is geared towards success. Their mind is, is more oriented toward. Well, I know that, you know, today I need to do blah blah blah blah blah blah. And they, you know, they pretty much do the things that are on their to-do list. They're really successful. They probably are able to, um, you know, have other people working for them that, you know, keep them on track, keep them moving forward, keeping them, you know, doing the things that they want to do. So there's like, no doubt in their mind that they're going to be able to get from here to here and, and attract and achieve the things that they want. Now, where a lot of people fail, you know, is that, you know, they will think about their desire in terms of like, well, I'm not really sure if that's possible for me or not. And, you know, I'm going to give it a try or, you know, and so so those are just two places where, you know, this person is using what I consider law of attraction principles through just being very clear on what they want and very clear on what they're thinking.
Victoria Gallagher: That's just two of the eight. Now, um, how did I realize that it was a true thing? I will tell you that for me it really started at a really early, early, early age. I in second grade, first grade actually, I saw the sixth graders put on a play, The Wizard of Oz. And I told myself at that very, very early age that I would play Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz. And when I got to be a sixth grader. Now, it was a long ways off. And, you know, and I just held true to that belief, and I just I would allow myself just to visualize myself. I would constantly just I would see that happening. I would practice and every single year, you know, I would the sixth graders would put on the play again and I would see, you know, the person doing it. And I'm like, yes, that's going to be me. And I would just, you know, so that was like really my first experience was with the whole practice of like, you put something out there into the universe and you can get what, what you want. And I had always been that way to where I could set any goal and I could achieve it. And, and then I even got like a little bit of a framework for how you do that by reading this book called Total Self-Confidence.
Victoria Gallagher: That is a book my mom sent me because I, you know, I did lack a little like that was that came from sort of a different place within me when it came to other areas of my life, like the kids in school that used to pick on me and little things like that. You know, I was really picked up on, I was picked on and I was bullied and, and I had all that going on. And so my mom sent me this book, Total Self-Confidence, which was a total eye-opener. And it really taught me this fascinating world of, you know, hypnosis and how, you know, and just expanding my awareness and kind of realizing, this whole new level of awareness. And I started getting that information at such an early age, like 18. And I was just like, I was hooked on, like, bettering myself and, and, and moving forward. So all of that worked up until a certain point. It worked up until I was in a relationship. This was post my first divorce. I'm remarried, my my second husband. So the relationship in between that didn't work out so well. That relationship I could not get that man to commit to me no matter what I did, you know? And so what I what I learned in hindsight, after going through this whole process with now being married for 15 years with my new husband, well, he's not my new husband, but my what I learned as a look back was even then I was, you know, using the Law of Attraction, but just in a negative way, because what was going on in that relationship, what that taught me was about this thing that people do when they want something so bad that they push it away.
Victoria Gallagher: And so that, right there, was just a lesson I learned all on my own without having to read any books about it. You know, going through this painful, painful experience of watching myself cling to something that I couldn't have and, you know, and I could not figure out why, like, this is the first time in my life it's like I get everything I want. Why is it so hard to get this, this one thing going, you know? And it really aggravated me and frustrated me and, and and really caused a lot of doubt in my abilities, you know, to get what I want. And so how I used that actually in my favor was going back to when, you know, I was faced with the same situation with my now husband, and we had been dating for about four years, almost four years, and we had been through the entire gamut of the relationship other than being married. We had been engaged, we got unengaged, we lived together.
Victoria Gallagher: We didn't live together. We we had the whole back and forth thing. Definitely a pattern that I, you know, distinctly remembered from my prior relationship. And then the day came when he said, you know, Victoria, I don't really see us ever getting to the point where we're going to get married. I just don't know what is going to get me over that hump to want to want to get there. And but we can hang around. I'm just letting you know. And that's exactly what I was doing with my prior relationship, Robbie. And I was hanging around trying to influence him, and so I, I saw it very clearly and I said, nope. I've been there and I'm now six years older than I was back in those days, and I don't really have time to fool around. And even, you know, so that at that time I had been, you know, just backing up a little bit, I had been doing a lot of visualization and talking to the universe and writing and having a vision board and all of this, like toward us getting engaged again and eventually married. I had been doing all of that, and he's has the audacity to tell me that we're just going to hang out. And I said, nope, nope. I think the universe is guiding me toward something bigger, something different. And I, I know that my vision on this vision board is going to is going to come true.
Victoria Gallagher: It's just not going to be with him, you know, and and the universe is basically saying, and this was a story I made up about what he told me, like, I, I just let it go. I let go of the how. And I just said, it's not it's just not going to be him. It's going to be something else. And so I let him go. And it was one of the most painful things that I ever had to do was just let him go. But I let him go. And and so I just, you know, I let him go. And I just kept visualizing and kept visualizing, but it was just like it changed the picture to like, just some vague person who had all the qualities was ready for a proposal. And, um, and three months later, we ran back into each other and he said that he had been asking God for, you know, a sign. And only like a week before we ran into each other again. And so we run into each other, and he tells me how he's doing, and I tell him how I'm doing, and he said, well, you know, that he wanted to meet with me. And so a week later we met. And a week after that we met again on the beach at 630, and he put a ring on my finger.
David Enevoldsen: Wow.
Victoria Gallagher: And a year after that, we got married. And we've been, you know, it's not wedded bliss like anybody's marriage. You know, it takes work. But 15 years, I think we're doing something right. And I know that's a long-winded story, but, you know, it it taught me so much just in my personal experience. Like, that's proof positive that the, that this, absolutely, and that's just one, you know, I mean, like the dream house that I have manifested the the books that I've written, the speaking engagements that came out of nowhere, that I manifested being on a um, 2020 ABC 2020 interview, I manifested. There's just been so, so, you know, so many little things that I have manifested. There's like no way. Now sometimes, you know, it's like with the next thing it's like. Sometimes you wonder if that's if that's coming and and you can get a little bit, you can certainly get caught up in the doubt. But that's where the work is. You know, you have to realize it's like there's always going to be like like that's what makes life interesting. I mean, if you just had a, you know, if you could just like snap your fingers and have everything just come into place, then you wouldn't have to grow yourself into anything to line up with your with your next level desire. So it's a personal growth process, personal growth process.
David Enevoldsen: It also seems like it would be pretty boring if everything just fell in exactly like like you were expecting when you were expecting.
Victoria Gallagher: It would be. It would be. It's like, you know, it's like watching the movie. But fast forwarding to the end of the movie.
David Enevoldsen: Right. And already having seen it 500 times and knowing exactly what it is and.
Victoria Gallagher: Exactly.
David Enevoldsen: What, you said, a lot of really interesting things in there. So one, maybe I can probe a little bit. So it sounds like you have certain areas of your life that are going well, but you can potentially have one area that's just not if you are like, how localized does this become? Or is it just kind of specific about thoughts? I mean, if I'm just generally thinking, walking around through my day, being happy or all the happy things going to come to me, or does it, does it tie into like specific thoughts and specific realms of your life? How does that work?
Victoria Gallagher: You know, that is a really good question. And I would have to say that, okay, so the more generally happy you are, you know, the more generally things that are on that happy vibrational level, are, you're going to attract more of those things. Now, and so if you if you are desireless, you know, if you don't have any very specific thing that you're going for, to be perfectly honest, I think that that's the highest level that we can all get to is, you know, if you are kind of walking the earth and you're just in a state of abundance and gratitude and wanting to help the world and however you can, you know, you're going to attract all the circumstances and all the situations that line up with that vibration, with being generally happy in a general vibe. But it won't be anything specific. And so but most of us, I think we do have a little bit more of a specific plan for ourselves and a specific purpose that we know that we're here to fulfill. And that's where all of the tools really kind of have, you know, have to come into play to get yourself a little bit more dialed in to that vibrational channel where that specific thing is.
Victoria Gallagher: So I believe that, like that specific thing, if you think about that very specific goal and you think, well, how would I be feeling? What would be the feelings and what would be like the intensity level of those feelings that I would have if I had that exact desire? What would I what you know, what would would it make me feel relieved? Would it make me feel passion? Would it make me feel secure, free? Whatever. You know what is, what is the feeling that, you know, and it might be a few feelings. And when you can hone in on exactly what you would be feeling if you had that met, then the work becomes you matching that feeling, because that's really what we want in the end anyway. You know, we think that by having this career, having this love, having this health, having this money, we think that that is going to make us feel that way. And it's really the opposite. You know, it's really the feeling that creates the opportunities for those things to find us.
David Enevoldsen: Yeah. That makes that makes sense. You talked a little bit about that kind of that, that sense of desperation resulting in kind of feelings of lack. How does that tie into the whole equation? And specifically, how do you how do you want something and manifest that thing if wanting it turns into like, I have to have it and I'm not getting it, which then translates to I'm thinking about lack, which is bringing lack. And how do you strike that balance?
Victoria Gallagher: Yeah, that's exactly you pretty much already said it right there is the fact that you want something so bad, but that wanting it actually turns into all these other multitude of negative feelings. It turns into anxiety. It turns into doubt. It turns into fear. It turns into frustration. It turns into anger, resentment, betrayal, you know, all the negative things. And so when you feel those things and sometimes you feel them very intensely, you have a tendency to either stay stuck where you where you are. Because and I can't really answer exactly why this is true. But the negative feelings, even though some sometimes we feel them more intensely, they're not, they don't have as much magnetizing power. So like when you're in a state of worry, you're not going to just snap those things into your life that you're worried about. It's going to take a lot of worry. It's going to take a lot of fear and anxiety and frustration to bring about those negative things. So if that's been your predominant way of thinking for a while and you have a tendency to like, you know, attract bad relationships or you have a tendency to attract bad health or bad jobs or run out of money or those kinds of things you got to study, how have you been thinking? How have you been feeling? And that it's been that predominant way of thinking and feeling, which also leads to the actions or lack thereof, that bring about those situations and those circumstances and those events.
Victoria Gallagher: So it's, you know, when we want something so bad is just that it brings us into that negative vibe and, you know, and kind of, you know, stalls the thing that we really want, you know, from, from being able to happen. So you have to, the work really becomes finding ways, finding things in the interim that help you to get on that, you know, positive wavelength. You know, things that make you feel good. You know, maybe when you're worrying about something, you can think, okay, I'm worrying about this. What do I want to feel? I want to feel happy. I want to feel peaceful. So what would I need to do to make myself feel happy or peaceful? Maybe it's that you need to go and listen to, you know, a happy, peaceful meditation. And maybe it's that you need to go for a walk in nature. Maybe you call a friend that's always there for you that makes you feel really good. Maybe it's that you go on YouTube and watch cute cat videos. You know, it's yeah, something that takes you, you know, from that negative vibe and into a positive vibe.
Victoria Gallagher: And then before you know it, you know you're feeling a little bit better again. And then when you're feeling better, you know your thoughts are a little bit more clear and your mind becomes a little bit more of a open channel to receive guidance that may not be available to you, you know, when you're not in an expansive state, you know you're in a little bit more of a constricted state, and your mind literally shuts down to being able to see new ideas. And that's the other thing that that happens, too. When you want something so bad, so, so much of the time, it's not even that we want something so bad. It's that we want what we want to happen in a certain way.
David Enevoldsen: Yeah.
Victoria Gallagher: And you know, we we are looking at like, well, because it's not coming down this exact pathway that we have made up in our minds that this is this is how I will know that my thing is happening, you know, because they're going to knock on the front door or because they're going to call at a specific time or because this email is going to come or whatever it is. We think that we equate that it didn't happen that way with that. It's not going to happen at all.
Victoria Gallagher: And there are umpteen million ways that your manifestation could come about. And so the how is not in our domain. And the when is also not in our domain. And that's also kind of the most frustrating part is we, you know, we don't get to set the time. There is really no time when it comes to, um, the universe and, and and that's where, you know, sometimes it's like, you know, if something isn't happening in your timeline, you may may feel like you're failing. But you know some good things do, you know, I mean, like, I mean, I wanted, I wanted my house within a year. It took three years, you know, to, to get. But you know what it was like there was a reason for, for that. And you can always, like, look back sometimes at why something happened the way that it happened. And you kind of can look back and you can trust and you can realize, oh, it was, you know, supposed to happen. I mean, I thought my husband and I were going to get engaged within the first year of hanging out. It took four years. But you know what, I mean if if if it happened any other way, he wouldn't have been the one for me. He he wouldn't have known.
David Enevoldsen: Right. That raises several questions for me. So one I almost think of I think of something that, at least on the outside, seems like it's almost the reverse. But I'm wondering how this fits into the equation. I work as an attorney, and a lot of times I'll have clients that come to me and in their heads there's a certain outcome that is just they can't even conceive of it being any other way. Like they are so confident that this is what's going to happen. Like, for example, they're facing a criminal charge and they're just dead convinced it's going to get dismissed. Or they're going through a divorce and they're just dead convinced that they're going to have all the time with the kids or something like that. And then we kind of work through the case, and it's very clear that they're just very, very convinced that this is going to be the outcome. And then at some point along the line, we realize that's not where it's going to go. And they will have like an absolute meltdown, and they just can't even seem to accept that this is where it's going. Like, how does that fit into kind of what we were just describing or what you were just describing?
Victoria Gallagher: Well, a couple things come to mind. Number one, you know, sometimes in the process of convincing ourselves that something is true, we also can develop an attachment to it. And so you might be thinking to yourself like, oh, well, this better happen. Otherwise I'm going to feel like this. And you know, so, so sometimes we're still doing the, the thing where we're, you know, we're saying one thing, but we're really feeling the opposite. And it's really the feelings are the most important part. So all of that convincing, you know, can also be coming from a place of doubt. It could be coming from a place of anger or fear or frustration or any of those negative vibe emotions. So that's one thing. And the second thing is in, you know, being that there's two sides to this story, there's the person who's on the criminal side, and then there's the person who's convicting them. They also know are manifesting at the same time. And so you have two conflicting vibes that probably want completely opposite things. And typically the strongest vibe is the one that's going to win. And so, yeah. So those are those are two possible.
David Enevoldsen: And that's a really interesting point. Also. That's something I've thought about quite often is I've had especially in the litigation context, I've heard people talk to me about, you know, I'm using the Law of Attraction to make this outcome. And I'm like, well, what happens if both sides are using the Law of Attraction to make conflicting outcomes? Like where does this resolve? It seems to be like that. Like just what you're describing. It's whoever just, I guess is more convinced it's going to happen or something. I don't know what the answer is there. But um, another well, so that also seems to tie back to this attachment idea. It goes like to what your story was earlier about your, your current husband. You know, when you let go, then all of a sudden things started happening that were consistent with what you wanted when you were clinging on to it and that, I have to have this, then it just wasn't happening. Um, so that makes a lot of sense. So release attachment, that's it seems like that's a key part of the equation. Is that accurate?
Victoria Gallagher: It really is. It's a huge, huge part part of the equation.
David Enevoldsen: Um, another thing that you touched on, I thought was really interesting was this time thing, because I've heard conflicting opinions on this, and you'd mentioned earlier the book Think and Grow Rich. I love that book. Yeah, that was a life changing book for me. Um, but one of the things like Napoleon Hill talks about in there is, you know, you say how much you want, by when you're going to have it, and what you're going to do to get it, and then you're supposed to go through and repeat this thing and you write it out on a card and repeat it to yourself multiple times a day. And I've heard other people talk about like, timeframes. Like sometimes you'll see people that say, I'm going to write a check to myself and I'll date it at a certain time. And it's going to be like $1 million or whatever it is. And so the expectation is there is a time constraint on that. What are your thoughts in terms of because you just said a few minutes ago, like we don't have control over the time, and this has always been sort of a struggle point for me. Like, what do you do with the time? Because it doesn't seem like you have control the way I understand it. But there are people out there preaching set a time constraint on when this is going to happen by. What are your thoughts on that?
Victoria Gallagher: Yeah, so it's actually pretty simple. So I say I still say you set a time.
David Enevoldsen: Okay.
Victoria Gallagher: But you just let go of the attachment to the time. Because if you're more if you're, you know, as that time frame starts getting closer and it's like, oh my God, we're a month away and I still don't have it yet. And you start looking at your watch and the calendar and all of that, you start to get a little nervous about it. So you do set a time. I look at it kind of like a dartboard in a way. You are, you know, the time is that very little finite, you know, point in the middle that you're aiming for. So you are aiming for that little finite, you know, time, and you may hit it. You may hit it exactly at that date and time. But like even pregnancy doesn't always hit, you know, like you don't always give birth on the exact date that they say that you're supposed to give birth. Sometimes it's right in the realm. It's it's that little area right around around it. It may happen a little sooner. It may happen, you know, a little after. And then, but, you know, as long as you, you know, you have, like this dartboard, you know, like, like that time, um, you know, all the little rings around that center are the possible, you know, the realms of possibility of which, you know, that where that it may hit. So you're aiming for a time, but you may not.
David Enevoldsen: But not attaching to that when it's going to happen.
Victoria Gallagher: You're not attached to, like, you're going to be happy if you get anywhere in that dartboard.
David Enevoldsen: Okay. Fair enough. That actually, that makes a lot of sense. I like that explanation. Um, circling back to kind of where we started with this or one of my earlier questions, I guess, you had talked about kind of your personal experience as kind of convincing you that this is what's going on, like Law of Attraction is applying and it's having an impact in your life, and you can kind of ignore it and just let it be a roller coaster, I guess, or utilize it and kind of make your life easier. Um, to the the person that is not yet convinced, what do you what do you say to them if they're saying this sounds a little woo woo, I'm not sure. Maybe this isn't really how the world is working. Like what are your thoughts to them?
Victoria Gallagher: So to someone who like, okay, so it depends on the kind of person you're talking about. If you're talking about the person who's just like, you know, the Law of Attraction is BS and I have no interest in it, then that person, I just say, okay, good luck. And, you know, but to the person who like they, they say, well, there's this thing called Law of Attraction. Not so sure about it. Um, you know, I'd kind of like I'm kind of curious, you know, if they're in the curious mode. That's a great place to be. And in that place, that's where it's information gathering. That's where there are a bunch of books, including mine, that you can read about and learn about the Law of Attraction. There's tons of YouTube videos and TikTok videos. I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of information out there. There's a lot of incorrect information as well, you know, so you have to just kind of like read reviews and, you know, find out what's actually working for people. Um, but, you know, I that's I just would make a study out of learning how it works just the same way that, you know, really I say make a study of learning, you know, coming from being a hypnotist, you know, it's like there's people that don't believe in that either.
Victoria Gallagher: But make a study for learning about how your mind works and and really and if you can try to start to understand yourself, you know, it's to me, it also just kind of comes down to it's all about self-awareness. You know, it's all about like studying yourself and understanding, um, you know, why am I why why do I feel this way? Why, you know, and and really understanding what makes you tick and how to start to get better results. And you can call it whatever you want. I mean, I call it the Law of Attraction. A lot of people call it the Law of Attraction. But really, you know, it's just it's a self-discovery process. It's a journey to learning about yourself. It's a journey of personal development and, you know, and and really, you know, I don't really like to spend too much time convincing people that it works. I think people need to discover that for themselves. But, you know, when they're curious, I always love directing them, you know, to my books, to my my channel, to my website, to I have a ton of, like, different, you know, manifestation challenges where I help walk people through the steps that they would need to align themselves with. And it's always like just an enlightening eye opening process for people.
David Enevoldsen: Okay, um, gosh, I feel like I have a million more questions for you, but I'm looking at the clock.
Victoria Gallagher: It's like opening up a can of worms.
David Enevoldsen: That's probably a good segway, however, what's if somebody does want to reach out to you to find out more about your books, find out about what you can do if you can help them, any of that, where do they go? I'll add links, but just so that we have it in the audio as well. Where can they find you?
Victoria Gallagher: Yeah, absolutely. So the best place would just really to start with my website victoriamgallagher.com. I have a new app coming out, which is going to be the place that I'm going to direct everybody to in the future. Um, which is called well, you can actually go to believemanifest.com. It's another, um, you know, website where I'm starting to kind of collect my leads for people that are going to be ready to download my app as soon as it launches in the next month. But yeah, the new app is called Believe. And it's a it's a free resource. There's a paid, you know, option as well, but it's a free resource that provides a ton of, you know, videos and courses and, you know, mind training audios and, you know, things to, you know, just kind of help you to align with your goals and manifest, you know, abundance and success.
David Enevoldsen: Cool. All right. Awesome. And last question of substance I've got for you. And then I'll cut you loose after that. So if you could offer just one piece of advice to people and only one piece of advice about emotional health or strength and kind of maximizing positive feelings and emotional resilience, what would that piece of advice be?
Victoria Gallagher: So the piece of advice when it comes to maximizing emotional health is really to focus on how you're feeling. Meaning to like, be aware and ask yourself, how am I feeling? And when you're aware of how you're feeling, then the next step would be to ask yourself, how would I like to feel? How would I like to feel? And then now you have a gap between how you're feeling and how you'd like to feel. And the work is really, what do I need to, you know, what can I do to get myself closer to how I want to feel? And maybe it's singing a song. Maybe it's playing with your cat. Maybe it's taking a few moments just to check in, you know, do some deep breathing. But it's so that's my piece of advice is to be aware. Know what you want, and know what tools you can use to get from where you are to where you want to be.
David Enevoldsen: I think that is spot on. Excellent advice and I totally agree with it. So Victoria, thank you very much for your time today. Thank you for coming on and interviewing with me. I appreciate you. And again, if anybody wants to learn more about Victoria, I will have links everywhere. I'm posting this podcast to her sites and definitely check out the app when that's out. But Victoria, thanks and I will cut you loose there.
Victoria Gallagher: Thank you so much David. It's been my pleasure and thanks for all the great, great questions.
David Enevoldsen: So that's going to bring us to the end of today's show. I hope that you have enjoyed this. I hope that you found this useful. I hope that at a bare minimum, you've been able to take some little nugget that you can use to make your life better, to optimize your emotional states, to continue to grow and make sure that you are feeling good and overcoming all the conflict in your life. Don't forget to sign up for the newsletter on the Emotional Embuffination website. Again, that's embuff.com. And remember, you got to keep working on this stuff. Emotional Embuffination is all about growth and that happens on an ongoing basis. It's very much like when you go to the gym, you don't just go once and say, I'm done. You keep going. You make it part of your routine. You go on a regular basis. Same thing with with Emotional Embuffination. You need to keep going. You keep working on it. You make it part of your routine. At the end of the day, what I want is for you to become emotionally strong enough to go from saying things like, "The struggle is real," to saying, "What struggle?" Thank you all for listening. I hope that you've enjoyed this. Have a great week and I will see you on the next show.